My First (and very successful) Christian Debate.

     I am a very atheist person. I hate the fact that Christians and other religions use their faith as an excuse to hate people. I used to just insult Christian people when they said my existence was bad and I was going to hell. But I've learned to actually disprove their religion. Using the power of debate, you, too, can destroy people's beliefs. I am not great at debates yet, but I am practicing, and at some point I will make every Christian I find fold in a debate.

    This debate took place in the weirdest place possible: Roblox. I don't remember exactly what he said, but here is the dialogue I remember with added context.

Christian: I hope you find god

Alti: Wanna debate?

Christian: What?

Alti: Is your God all good?

Christian: Yeah

Alti: So why does cancer exist? What kind of all good God would create cancer?

Christian: Because sin

Alti: Dinosaurs had cancer, we have fossils of dinosaurs with cancer, they existed before original sin, so that can't be right.

Christian: No they didn't (The classic Christian "nuh uh" to science)

Alti: Look it up. Dinosaurs had cancer.

Christian: No they didn't (He repeats the "nuh uh")

Alti: So animals can get cancer today, right?

Christian: Yeah

Alti: And they can't sin, right?

Christian: No. 

Alti: So why do they have cancer? And why would dinosaurs not be able to get cancer, and animals now can?

Christian: The Earth was created in six days. Dinosaurs were created on the third or fourth days.

(I let him pivot because I knew I could destroy him with his logic. I trapped him in a box with this. He either had to say dinosaurs only existed for two days or existed at the same time as humans. Both are insanities)

Alti: So humans and dinosaurs existed at the same time?

Christian: Yes

Alti: That's insane

Christian: Read the Bible

Alti: Alright, I just destroyed you and you don't want to admit it. There's an insane amount of evidence that dinosaurs and humans were 65 million years apart.

Christian: Read the Bible, you're braindead.

Alti: Fine. Lets move on again. If there was a button in front of you and that button would cure cancer would you press it?

Christian: Yeah

Alti: Would God?

Christian: I don't know what God would do

Alti: Well, God, according to your logic, has the ability to cure cancer. He has that button right now and hasn't pressed it.

Christian: God would press the button

Alti: He wouldn't. He can press the button right now, but he doesn't. How can your all good God in all good faith not cure the evil that is cancer?

Christian: Because it's a punishment for sin (Just contradicted himself)

Alti: I already disproved that

Christian: Omg read the Bible

Alti: Alright. Why do babies have cancer? They can't sin.

Christian: When babies die, they go to heaven

Alti: So it's okay that babies get cancer because they go to heaven when they die?

Christian: Read the bible

Alti: Answer the question

Christian: Shut up

Alti: You know that what you want to say is insane, so you don't want to say it

Christian: It doesn't matter that babies get cancer because they go to heaven. It's a punishment for sin.

Alti: That's insane. That's not okay, your God murders babies because someone ate an apple once.

Christian: That's not what I said

Alti: Yes. Yes it is. (I then walked away because I feel I sufficiently made him question his faith)

    So in this argument, this man said that dinosaurs and humans existed at the same time, dinosaurs didn't get cancer, god wouldn't press the 'end cancer' button, and that babies deserve cancer because someone ate an apple once. You can't punish everyone for something one person did. I'm pretty sure that's an actual war crime. 

    I am so proud of this debate because I stayed mostly calm, I stayed linear, and I tracked the argument very well.

    To be clear, I don't do this to be mean to the person. I do this to prove that religion is bullshit. Christians hate me for existing and I can prove that their entire world view is wrong.

    It may seem weird that I just walked away in the end, but I count it as a victory because he said multiple things that are insane. Hopefully it made him question his faith because that's why I love doing this.

    Feel free to use this argument in debates if you're like me. Look up Allegedly Ian on YouTube and TikTok, they do amazing religious debates. That's where I got this argument from and expanded it. I also have even more arguments that I would love to document on here.

    I want to just point out that there were so many contradictions in his argument, and he ignored them. Which means he ignores logic because contradictions are false. And if you ignore logic, you can say anything. You need to show them how stupid that is, which I think I did well.

List of contradictions:

1:

Proposition 1: Dinosaurs had cancer

Proposition 2: Cancer is a punishment for sin

Proposition 3: Dinosaurs existed before humans

Conclusion: Cancer can't be a punishment for sin

Contradiction: Cancer existed before sin, but cancer is a punishment for sin

2: 

Proposition 1: Cancer is bad

Proposition 2: God is all good

Proposition 3: God made cancer

Conclusion: God made something bad

Contradiction: If God made something bad, he can't be all good

3:

Proposition 1: God would press the cancer curing button 

Proposition 2: He created cancer as a punishment, so he wouldn't press it

Contradiction: He would press it, but wouldn't press it